The Ringer's Joe House sits down on a balcony in Santa Monica, California, with world-renowned chef René Redzepi, and Noma's brilliant director of fermentation, David Zilber, to discuss their culinary origins, pioneering the field of fermenting foods, and their new cookbook, 'The Noma Guide to Fermentation' (15:00). Then, House links up with Juliet Litman for a classic 'House of Carbs' Food News (48:30).

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices